Introduction

 

The New York branch of the Kiedaisch family was started by Johann Georg Kiedaisch from Dettingen, Kircheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany.  He was born I believe May 20, 1856 and married Amelia Weis who was born in New York in the 1850’s.  Her parents were Frederich Weis and Elizabeth Weis from Prussia.  I am guessing he immigrated to New York in 1872.  In 1889-90 he was recorded as being in Brooklyn and was listed as a cooper for an occupation.

As a child, my mother told me that great-grandfather came from Germany settled in New York and had made a stop at Strasbourg before coming to the United States.  She also indicated he spoke more than one language and didn’t like talking about the past.

I have listed the first generation of the family below so you can see where you might fit.  I haven’t put more, although we are gathering much, because some family members might not want their names on this website.  If you would like me to put your family information on this website please let me know.  Any information I receive about the New York family I will put in “Family History And Comments” see section below.  To help in understanding, when I receive information I will put the persons name and his first generation relative, i.e. Alan Kiedaisch (grandfather- George).

Below is a picture of my grandfather George Washington Kiedaisch (fifth from left with pail) there might be other brothers in this picture but we have know way of knowing.  This is clearly a baseball team and we know it was in Brooklyn about the turn of the century.

 

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Contact me by e-mail alan@kiedaisch.com  --  Alan Kiedaisch (grandfather- George) San Jose, California  Mar 1, 2007

 

First Generation

 

1 Frederick Kiedaisch

Died: 17 Jun 1901

 

2 John Kiedaisch:

Born: 26 Feb 1876 Brooklyn, New York

Died: 09 Dec 1946

 

3 Amelia Saunders Name:

Born: 19 Jan 1880 Brooklyn, New York

Died: 25 Jun 1943

 

4 Joseph Kiedaisch Name:

Born: 04 Feb 1882 Brooklyn, New York

Died: 13 Aug 1943

 

5 George Washington Kiedaisch Name:

Born: 22 Feb 1884 Brooklyn, New York

Died: 06 Mar 1948 Staten Island, New York

Spouse: Ellen Delaney Beacham

 

6 Charles Kiedaisch Name:

Born: 15 May 1886 Brooklyn, New York

Died: 20 May 1940

 

7 Eva Kiedaisch Name:

Born: 12 Dec 1894 Brooklyn, New York

Died: 1895 Brooklyn, New York

 

8 August Kiedaisch Name:

Born: 28 Feb 1898 Brooklyn, New York

Died: 26 Sep 1975

 

9 William Kiedaisch Name:

Born: May 5, 1890 Brooklyn, New York

Died: 10 Aug 1915

Spouse: Lulu Geldmacher

Born: Oct 7, 1889

Died: Jun 1987

 

As we gather information on the family we will find there are differences based on the sources we find.  If we have several sources saying the same thing then we can assume the information is correct.  For example, Howard Kiedaisch (grandfather –William) has come across different information on the founder of this branch of the family.  I have put his comments below.

 

 

Family History And Comments

 

From: On the internet, 1880 census.  Note the age of father. 

 

KIDAISCH, JOHN (1880 U.S. Census)

NEW YORK , KINGS, 14-WD; BROOKLYN

Age: 35, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: GERM

Series: T9 Roll: 848 Page: 420

 

250 6th Street, dwelling 50, family 134

 

Kidaisch, John, 35, M, Cooper, Wertenburgh GER GER

" , Mary, 25, wife, M, Candy Store, NY GER GER

" , John, 3, son, NY Wertenburgh NY

" , Frederick, 2, son, NY Wertenburgh NY

" , Amelia, 11/12, born Jan, Dau, NY Wertenburgh NY

Wise, Emma, 15, Sister, Makes Neck Ties, NY GER

 

 

From Howard Kiedaisch (grandfather-William) – 2-25-07 North Carolina

 

I found a passenger list for the ship "Argonaut" that arrived in NY from Bremen, Germany on Jan. 8, 1867.  Listed as passengers were Georg Kiedaisch and Johann Kiedaisch.  The ages listed for Johann (22) and Georg (23) seem to work.

 

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From Howard Kiedaisch (grandfather-William) – 1-16-07 North Carolina

 

My father's father was William E. Kiedaisch.  William was born in Brooklyn, NY on May 5, 1890.  His father John (Johann) Kiedaisch was born in Germany (no city listed) in 1845.  John immigrated to the U.S. in 1865.  John married Mary Wiesse circa 1876.  She was born in the U.S. of German parents.  In 1910, they lived at 409 Graham Ave. Brooklyn with 2 of their sons Charles, 23 and August H., 12.  They had 9 children, but only 7 were living in 1910.  Joseph Kiedaisch lived on the same street, at 392 Graham, with his wife Susie (who was born in Pennsylvania) and there 3 year old son Joseph.  Joseph and Susie were 28 years old in 1910.  I assume that Joseph (the father) was a son of John and Mary.  John was a cooper and Joseph was a printer.  And Charles, the 23 year old son, was an electrician's helper.  I got all of this from the 1910 census of Kings County (Brooklyn), NY.  Your Grandfather, George, and my Grandfather, William, were not listed.  I know that William was in the army and probably didn't live in the area.  My father, Howard Gilbert, was an only child, born in Brooklyn, NY January 31, 1910 and passed away in 1976.  My Mother, Ethel, passed away in 1997.  William, my Grandfather, passed away at 25 years old in 1915.  My Grandmother, Lulu, remarried to Ferdinand Schwerdtman and my father was raised by his maternal Grandmother, Annie Geldmacher.  I believe that's why we lost contact with the Kiedaisches. 

 

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